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Post by The Evergreen Republic on Aug 11, 2022 3:45:18 GMT
SPONSORS: NR, KORVALIS The Ministry of Cultural Affairs is seeking immediate charges to be filed against Saint Jews for godmodding: Godmodding: Saint Jews is entered into a war against Pac Derman. This war was declared on August 8 at 6AM NationStates time. Several hours later, Saint Jews began bombing missions on Pac Derman's nation. The next day, August 9 at roughly 11PM NationStates time, Saint Jews began a land invasion of Pac Derman. Hours earlier, Saint Jews posted three factbooks which appeared to be designed specifically for use in this nation's war against Pac Derman. The factbooks, among other things, announced the nation has 3.8M active personnel, 25M reserve personnel, 23,000 aircraft (5,800 fighters/6,500 attack aircraft/etc.), over 60 aircraft carriers, 216 missile cruisers, and other egregious examples of godmodding. Saint Jews is a nation with less than one billion citizens. While this nation has good defense force rankings with a large arms manufacturing industry, we submit that these numbers are not not only inflated but that these factbooks were entered solely to defeat Pac Derman in war that Saint Jews had already begun. Shortly after posting the factbooks, Saint Jews announced an invasion of Pac Derman with 500,000 soldiers, using data formulated only hours ago out of thin air. In the belief that this action was malicious, with the intent to punish another nation unfairly with falsified numbers: We seek godmodding charges and call on the Assembly to approve these charges. The attachments in this post show the factbooks posted by Saint Jews being used as a base for these charges.
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Post by Korvalis on Aug 11, 2022 3:46:42 GMT
Support and sponsor
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Post by Nationale Republik on Aug 11, 2022 3:48:32 GMT
The NR supports and sponsors.
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Post by Romanic Imperium on Aug 11, 2022 3:57:40 GMT
Abstain
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Post by IPRPravitel on Aug 11, 2022 4:36:19 GMT
Pravitel supports this
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Post by Saint Jews on Aug 11, 2022 5:56:14 GMT
good morning dear friends, if you are making accusations, then be kind enough to attach some "standards for the number of troops" because I was making a book of facts taking into account the real world, where with a smaller population and a smaller budget, the army can be if not the same, if not more. I took into account not only the real world, but also the mood of my country, such an image of a militarized state. My main complaint is where are these same standards for the number of weapons, because I have not found anything like this?
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Post by The Evergreen Republic on Aug 11, 2022 6:35:50 GMT
good morning dear friends, if you are making accusations, then be kind enough to attach some "standards for the number of troops" because I was making a book of facts taking into account the real world, where with a smaller population and a smaller budget, the army can be if not the same, if not more. I took into account not only the real world, but also the mood of my country, such an image of a militarized state. My main complaint is where are these same standards for the number of weapons, because I have not found anything like this? The real world? Your numbers are not anywhere close to real-world numbers. These factbooks were also published *after* you went to war. Our nation is also top 20 in defense forces, and we have numbers that are not even close to yours. Because they're realistic. However, publishing the factbooks after going to war and then refusing to discuss even the hint that Pac Derman had a problem with your established RP lines is a big no-no. Your responses were along the lines of "all due respect but military power." I also don't buy your good faith approach here. You issued nuclear threats against the founder of your region. It doesn't seem to me like you really care about playing nice in Declansburg.
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Post by Sivio on Aug 11, 2022 6:46:37 GMT
good morning dear friends, if you are making accusations, then be kind enough to attach some "standards for the number of troops" because I was making a book of facts taking into account the real world, where with a smaller population and a smaller budget, the army can be if not the same, if not more. I took into account not only the real world, but also the mood of my country, such an image of a militarized state. My main complaint is where are these same standards for the number of weapons, because I have not found anything like this? The real world? Your numbers are not anywhere close to real-world numbers. These factbooks were also published *after* you went to war. Our nation is also top 20 in defense forces, and we have numbers that are not even close to yours. Because they're realistic. However, publishing the factbooks after going to war and then refusing to discuss even the hint that Pac Derman had a problem with your established RP lines is a big no-no. Your responses were along the lines of "all due respect but military power." I also don't buy your good faith approach here. You issued nuclear threats against the founder of your region. It doesn't seem to me like you really care about playing nice in Declansburg. Plus, not to mention that in the real world, China and India may have the largest populations in the world, but their entire military population is less than 0.01% of their total populations.
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Post by Saint Jews on Aug 11, 2022 12:06:03 GMT
good morning dear friends, if you are making accusations, then be kind enough to attach some "standards for the number of troops" because I was making a book of facts taking into account the real world, where with a smaller population and a smaller budget, the army can be if not the same, if not more. I took into account not only the real world, but also the mood of my country, such an image of a militarized state. My main complaint is where are these same standards for the number of weapons, because I have not found anything like this? The real world? Your numbers are not anywhere close to real-world numbers. These factbooks were also published *after* you went to war. Our nation is also top 20 in defense forces, and we have numbers that are not even close to yours. Because they're realistic. However, publishing the factbooks after going to war and then refusing to discuss even the hint that Pac Derman had a problem with your established RP lines is a big no-no. Your responses were along the lines of "all due respect but military power." I also don't buy your good faith approach here. You issued nuclear threats against the founder of your region. It doesn't seem to me like you really care about playing nice in Declansburg. as I said, partly looking at reality, it seems to me that it is quite possible to produce so much equipment in a military economy. Further, I still don't understand how a country that is many times weaker than me can say that it dropped several million tons of bombs and shells on my landing and pulverized all my troops, then let's write a rule of warfare in general so that, as you say, there is no modding. What I don't understand yet is the accusations of incorrect military actions, it seems to me that wars lose some meaning if conditionally I say that I captured the city, and the conditional enemy says that I didn't capture it, then how to understand where the truth is and where the lie is. I do not dispute that with the participation of the founder, the war has acquired a different character, but look at my economy and the economy of the Pac, sorry, but it just sounds ridiculous as he destroys my army. P.S. as soon as I get access to my laptop, I will be able to send my approximate calculations of military power so that you can understand N.B. from accusations with nuclear I do not disown them with weapons and I am ready to accept them in full
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Post by Chicago Bears Fan on Aug 11, 2022 14:15:28 GMT
The real world? Your numbers are not anywhere close to real-world numbers. These factbooks were also published *after* you went to war. Our nation is also top 20 in defense forces, and we have numbers that are not even close to yours. Because they're realistic. However, publishing the factbooks after going to war and then refusing to discuss even the hint that Pac Derman had a problem with your established RP lines is a big no-no. Your responses were along the lines of "all due respect but military power." I also don't buy your good faith approach here. You issued nuclear threats against the founder of your region. It doesn't seem to me like you really care about playing nice in Declansburg. as I said, partly looking at reality, it seems to me that it is quite possible to produce so much equipment in a military economy. Further, I still don't understand how a country that is many times weaker than me can say that it dropped several million tons of bombs and shells on my landing and pulverized all my troops, then let's write a rule of warfare in general so that, as you say, there is no modding. What I don't understand yet is the accusations of incorrect military actions, it seems to me that wars lose some meaning if conditionally I say that I captured the city, and the conditional enemy says that I didn't capture it, then how to understand where the truth is and where the lie is. I do not dispute that with the participation of the founder, the war has acquired a different character, but look at my economy and the economy of the Pac, sorry, but it just sounds ridiculous as he destroys my army. P.S. as soon as I get access to my laptop, I will be able to send my approximate calculations of military power so that you can understand N.B. from accusations with nuclear I do not disown them with weapons and I am ready to accept them in full Ok send me your data
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Post by Odinburgh on Aug 11, 2022 14:25:14 GMT
500,000 for someone that a pop of 834 million currently seems high. If it were something like anywhere from 25,000 up to 100,000 I could perhaps accept that number of troops.
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Post by Chicago Bears Fan on Aug 11, 2022 14:25:49 GMT
500,000 for someone that a pop of 834 million currently seems high. If it were something like anywhere from 25,000 up to 100,000 I could perhaps accept that number of troops. Well I want to hear his reasoning
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Post by The Evergreen Republic on Aug 11, 2022 14:57:32 GMT
The real world? Your numbers are not anywhere close to real-world numbers. These factbooks were also published *after* you went to war. Our nation is also top 20 in defense forces, and we have numbers that are not even close to yours. Because they're realistic. However, publishing the factbooks after going to war and then refusing to discuss even the hint that Pac Derman had a problem with your established RP lines is a big no-no. Your responses were along the lines of "all due respect but military power." I also don't buy your good faith approach here. You issued nuclear threats against the founder of your region. It doesn't seem to me like you really care about playing nice in Declansburg. as I said, partly looking at reality, it seems to me that it is quite possible to produce so much equipment in a military economy. Further, I still don't understand how a country that is many times weaker than me can say that it dropped several million tons of bombs and shells on my landing and pulverized all my troops, then let's write a rule of warfare in general so that, as you say, there is no modding. What I don't understand yet is the accusations of incorrect military actions, it seems to me that wars lose some meaning if conditionally I say that I captured the city, and the conditional enemy says that I didn't capture it, then how to understand where the truth is and where the lie is. I do not dispute that with the participation of the founder, the war has acquired a different character, but look at my economy and the economy of the Pac, sorry, but it just sounds ridiculous as he destroys my army. P.S. as soon as I get access to my laptop, I will be able to send my approximate calculations of military power so that you can understand N.B. from accusations with nuclear I do not disown them with weapons and I am ready to accept them in full We had given them 1,500 short range Elam-16 missiles, which was cataloged. That alone gets us up to around near 1M lbs. of explosives considering the payload of Elams. Saint Jews, you stated you had 25 million reserve troops...60 aircraft carriers with 10 aircraft carriers per fleet. Those numbers are just ridiculous. RP usually involves mutual understanding. Pac Derman has been beyond reasonable, and is even RPing a war that is a losing battle for them in Platoon of Peace. You may have reasoning but it will not be good reasoning. These numbers are absurd. And, to boot, you published these factbooks after you went to war. I'm sorry, but we cannot accept that. It is basically cheating.
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Post by Romanic Imperium on Aug 11, 2022 16:05:11 GMT
To be fair for Saint jews. I have millions in my active service when at full strength and many of my citizens become partisans in times of war. 25 million reserves isn't that outlandish. Though the fleet size is
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Post by The Evergreen Republic on Aug 11, 2022 16:23:19 GMT
To be fair for Saint jews. I have millions in my active service when at full strength and many of my citizens become partisans in times of war. 25 million reserves isn't that outlandish. Though the fleet size is Considering the largest military reserve force on the planet is China at 3.3 million, yes. It is outlandish. And if those are your numbers Romanic, they are completely outlandish.
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