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Post by Romanic Imperium on Jun 27, 2022 15:22:28 GMT
We did second strike NR, Korvalis, and Evergreen struck first This where I seen some of the stuff on rmb from NR saying that you struck first or whatever which is the confusing part. So in OOC discord the warning of an invasion in screenshot submitted by Evergreen was related to the second strike on NR, correct? If that's the case I will consider it into the record but only this shows you giving him a warning relating to what would happen next in the IC. To me its sounds like they acted in response that was said from you "you were going to invade" in the OOC. Unless that is not true they did not act due to those OOC comment which must be proven otherwise. OOCLY yeah I hinted at an invasion. But NR struck first. I never went on the offensive
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Post by The Evergreen Republic on Jun 27, 2022 16:29:33 GMT
We acted to do those comments OOC combined with some RP channel hints at an oncoming invasion of "someone" and when Romanic mobilized his military that's when we struck, because we assumed that some nation was going to get invaded and decided to preemptively strike.
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Post by Nationale Republik on Jun 27, 2022 16:44:05 GMT
Defense Minister Laurent Stage is sent to represent the Nationale Republik in response to the subpoena. Defense Minister Stage takes his seat and shares an official statement by the Schulz Government:
“For days before the initial NR strike upon the bordering Romanic territory the latter increased its unprovoked rhetoric against the Nationale Republik. This began with the abrupt suspension of diplomatic relations and the administering of sanctions upon the Nationale Republik, again with zero reasoning. These actions where immediately followed by Romanic Imperium’s transport of military forces to their NR-bordering territory, all the while continuing their cryptic threats against us.
All of these actions contributed to the strike approved by our Government. We felt the extreme need to not only prevent an impending invasion but to protect our citizens from unprovoked aggression. No messages where labeled as either being “IC” or “OOC” by Romanic Imperium, therefore we believed them to be actionable. So we acted, and air strikes were ordered over the bordering territory.
These threats were baseless and the widespread Romanic aggression that followed was beyond despicable.”
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Post by Romanic Imperium on Jun 27, 2022 16:59:41 GMT
Defense Minister Laurent Stage is sent to represent the Nationale Republik in response to the subpoena. Defense Minister Stage takes his seat and shares an official statement by the Schulz Government: “For days before the initial NR strike upon the bordering Romanic territory the latter increased its unprovoked rhetoric against the Nationale Republik. This began with the abrupt suspension of diplomatic relations and the administering of sanctions upon the Nationale Republik, again with zero reasoning. These actions where immediately followed by Romanic Imperium’s transport of military forces to their NR-bordering territory, all the while continuing their cryptic threats against us. All of these actions contributed to the strike approved by our Government. We felt the extreme need to not only prevent an impending invasion but to protect our citizens from unprovoked aggression. No messages where labeled as either being “IC” or “OOC” by Romanic Imperium, therefore we believed them to be actionable. So we acted, and air strikes were ordered over the bordering territory. These threats were baseless and the widespread Romanic aggression that followed was beyond despicable.” OBJECTION. I only put in character stuff in rp
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Post by Odinburgh on Jun 27, 2022 19:37:19 GMT
Defense Minister Laurent Stage is sent to represent the Nationale Republik in response to the subpoena. Defense Minister Stage takes his seat and shares an official statement by the Schulz Government: “For days before the initial NR strike upon the bordering Romanic territory the latter increased its unprovoked rhetoric against the Nationale Republik. This began with the abrupt suspension of diplomatic relations and the administering of sanctions upon the Nationale Republik, again with zero reasoning. These actions where immediately followed by Romanic Imperium’s transport of military forces to their NR-bordering territory, all the while continuing their cryptic threats against us. All of these actions contributed to the strike approved by our Government. We felt the extreme need to not only prevent an impending invasion but to protect our citizens from unprovoked aggression. No messages where labeled as either being “IC” or “OOC” by Romanic Imperium, therefore we believed them to be actionable. So we acted, and air strikes were ordered over the bordering territory. These threats were baseless and the widespread Romanic aggression that followed was beyond despicable.” What exactly is was the unprovoked rhetoric? Did this come from the Romanic government or Romanic rogue rebels?
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Post by Odinburgh on Jun 27, 2022 19:38:39 GMT
Defense Minister Laurent Stage is sent to represent the Nationale Republik in response to the subpoena. Defense Minister Stage takes his seat and shares an official statement by the Schulz Government: “For days before the initial NR strike upon the bordering Romanic territory the latter increased its unprovoked rhetoric against the Nationale Republik. This began with the abrupt suspension of diplomatic relations and the administering of sanctions upon the Nationale Republik, again with zero reasoning. These actions where immediately followed by Romanic Imperium’s transport of military forces to their NR-bordering territory, all the while continuing their cryptic threats against us. All of these actions contributed to the strike approved by our Government. We felt the extreme need to not only prevent an impending invasion but to protect our citizens from unprovoked aggression. No messages where labeled as either being “IC” or “OOC” by Romanic Imperium, therefore we believed them to be actionable. So we acted, and air strikes were ordered over the bordering territory. These threats were baseless and the widespread Romanic aggression that followed was beyond despicable.” OBJECTION. I only put in character stuff in rp Noted and over ruled. I wish to hear NR's side. As I am aware of the ooc and ic side of this too.
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Post by Odinburgh on Jun 27, 2022 19:41:28 GMT
We acted to do those comments OOC combined with some RP channel hints at an oncoming invasion of "someone" and when Romanic mobilized his military that's when we struck, because we assumed that some nation was going to get invaded and decided to preemptively strike. I would assume in the case the preemptive strike of self defense of your alliance to protect sovereignty?
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Post by Nationale Republik on Jun 27, 2022 20:56:07 GMT
Defense Minister Laurent Stage is sent to represent the Nationale Republik in response to the subpoena. Defense Minister Stage takes his seat and shares an official statement by the Schulz Government: “For days before the initial NR strike upon the bordering Romanic territory the latter increased its unprovoked rhetoric against the Nationale Republik. This began with the abrupt suspension of diplomatic relations and the administering of sanctions upon the Nationale Republik, again with zero reasoning. These actions where immediately followed by Romanic Imperium’s transport of military forces to their NR-bordering territory, all the while continuing their cryptic threats against us. All of these actions contributed to the strike approved by our Government. We felt the extreme need to not only prevent an impending invasion but to protect our citizens from unprovoked aggression. No messages where labeled as either being “IC” or “OOC” by Romanic Imperium, therefore we believed them to be actionable. So we acted, and air strikes were ordered over the bordering territory. These threats were baseless and the widespread Romanic aggression that followed was beyond despicable.” What exactly is was the unprovoked rhetoric? Did this come from the Romanic government or Romanic rogue rebels? For starters and as already stated, they suspended diplomatic relations with us and installed sanctions, and both actions were unprovoked. The massive troop movements to a territory which borders us right after those decisions were made were perceived as a threat towards our homeland. What else were we to think? There constant threats of an invasion and the constant mention of us being a target I believe resulted in a correct response by us. As for where these actions and comments originated we believed them to have come from the Romanic Government, rogue or otherwise. Whomever or wherever these acts and words came from, they represented the Romanic flag.
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Post by Odinburgh on Jun 27, 2022 21:43:00 GMT
What exactly is was the unprovoked rhetoric? Did this come from the Romanic government or Romanic rogue rebels? For starters and as already stated, they suspended diplomatic relations with us and installed sanctions, and both actions were unprovoked. The massive troop movements to a territory which borders us right after those decisions were made were perceived as a threat towards our homeland. What else were we to think? There constant threats of an invasion and the constant mention of us being a target I believe resulted in a correct response by us. As for where these actions and comments originated we believed them to have come from the Romanic Government, rogue or otherwise. Whomever or wherever these acts and words came from, they represented the Romanic flag. So these massive troop movements to a territory that borders you, did the Romanic troops cross into your territory which led you to strike or Romanic troops basically still at your territorial border on his side and decided to strike? If so this would be a self defense move on part of your nation due to this large buildup near your territory, am I correct in assumption this is why you acted?
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Post by Nationale Republik on Jun 27, 2022 22:07:50 GMT
For starters and as already stated, they suspended diplomatic relations with us and installed sanctions, and both actions were unprovoked. The massive troop movements to a territory which borders us right after those decisions were made were perceived as a threat towards our homeland. What else were we to think? There constant threats of an invasion and the constant mention of us being a target I believe resulted in a correct response by us. As for where these actions and comments originated we believed them to have come from the Romanic Government, rogue or otherwise. Whomever or wherever these acts and words came from, they represented the Romanic flag. So these massive troop movements to a territory that borders you, did the Romanic troops cross into your territory which led you to strike or Romanic troops basically still at your territorial border on his side and decided to strike? If so this would be a self defense move on part of your nation due to this large buildup near your territory, am I correct in assumption this is why you acted? No, Romanic forces hadn’t crossed into our lands as we took action before an invasion could take place. There were active threats and we weren’t going to keep stationary and allow anything to happen, as is our right as an independent country. A large buildup of military forces would cause any bordering nation to take immediate notice and appropriate action. With all due respect, the NR wasn’t going to just keep idle.
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Post by Odinburgh on Jun 27, 2022 22:17:55 GMT
Ok to Romanic again about the sanctions on NR what was the reasoning behind it? I understand this was due to breakdown of diplomatic relations which was suspended which lead to the sanctions and later events. NR can fill in as well on their take of this too.
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Post by Romanic Imperium on Jun 27, 2022 22:19:00 GMT
Ok to Romanic again about the sanctions on NR what was the reasoning behind it? I understand this was due to breakdown of diplomatic relations which was suspended which lead to the sanctions and later events. NR can fill in as well on their take of this too. I was trying to get an ally that's really all
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Post by Odinburgh on Jun 27, 2022 22:20:07 GMT
Ok to Romanic again about the sanctions on NR what was the reasoning behind it? I understand this was due to breakdown of diplomatic relations which was suspended which lead to the sanctions and later events. NR can fill in as well on their take of this too. I was trying to get an ally that's really all Who is the ally?
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Post by Romanic Imperium on Jun 27, 2022 22:20:55 GMT
I was trying to get an ally that's really all Who is the ally? I don't remember their name but they either were banned or don't play
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Post by Isla De Militarias on Jun 27, 2022 22:33:01 GMT
We simply adied and headed a call from an ally, thought no troops set foot on land , we did engage in aerial bombardment on military instillations....
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